A Nation of States. America is as much an idea as it is a place. So how has the idea of America been lived, reformed, or avoided in places that sit both inside and outside of it? And where do we look for America today? A discussion with New Yorker staff writer Lawrence Wright (God Save Texas: A Journey into the Soul of the Lone Star State), New Yorker and New York Times Magazine contributor Dan Kaufman (The Fall of Wisconsin: The Conservative Conquest of a Progressive Bastion and the Future of American Politics) and sociologist Manuel Pastor (State of Resistance: What California’s Dizzying Descent and Remarkable Resurgence Mean for America’s Future), moderated by Jessica Bruder, author of Nomadland.